A man expresses his profound experience in Christian terminology. Dawkins says that if the man were Muslim he would be talking about Allah, if Hindu about Krishna etc. Dawkins also points out that the mind has a great capacity for illusion. He concludes that the man is mythologising an illusion. But perhaps the human mind is also capable of profound insights into reality and that it then mythologises. Maybe, in their opposing ways Dawkins and his questioner are both effing with the ineffible.